Tuesday, January 30, 2007

Quote of the Day: House Defeats Repeal of In-State Tuition

"A controversial bill that would repeal a state law that allows eligible undocumented students to pay resident college tuition failed today in a tied House vote. Lawmakers voted 37 to 37 on HB224, meaning it died. Rep. Keith Grover, R-Provo, who co-sponsored the bill, was the only lawmaker not on the floor to vote.
The bill, sponsored by Rep. Glenn Donnelson, could be reconsidered within 24 hours, perhaps as early as this afternoon, and people who oppose the repeal are nervous."

Jennifer W. Sanchez
Salt Lake Tribune
If you want to win, make sure all your supporters show up to vote!

House defeats repeal of resident tuition for undocumented students


Jeremy said...

Sounds to me like good governance was served by not having everyone there today! Here's hoping for similar results when they try to bring it up again.

Tyler Farrer said...

It's my understanding that this event is a common thing out on the floor. My question is, will Rep. Grover show up for the second vote?

Do no-shows benefit politically by not showing up to weigh in on controversial issues?

WP said...

Can we hope the voucher people fail too?

Anonymous said...

I don't think it is 'good governance' at all.

Those with the waiver can not legally work once they graduate. If they do so, they are will, most likely, commit several felonies (including identity theft). Some may have already done so - Trib/Des. News articles have mentioned that many of them are currently working. Where did they get that SSN?

I know several people who've come here legally on student/other visas. The process was a pain, to say the least. If anyone deserves a break, they do - they and their families painstakingly followed US laws.

Apparently, if you enter illegally, falsify work forms, and steal our IDs, we'll punish you by giving you (and/or your kids) a break on tuition. On the other hand, wait in the visa line at the consulate, take the time, effort and money to enter legally (possibly without any visa authorization to work while you're in school), you get the higher rate as our thanks.

Nice incentives.

Jeremy said...

Sorry anonymous...I should have been more clear.

The laws we have that penalize these people are bogus and lame.

We need to check at the border to make sure no terrorists are getting in then leave the rest of the honest hard working immigrants who want to raise and educate their kids in our state and country alone.

If allowing these young people to be educated in our state while only being charged in-state tuition rates helps with the end goal of relaxed immigration laws then I'm all for it.

Tyler Farrer said...

Jeremy, I can see your point.

However, allowing in-state tuition for illegals doesn't force the Federal government to change its laws.

Illegal immigrants are the ones that will yield on this one. Not the federal governments laws.

If you want the federal government to change its laws, as I do, it should be addressed head-on. Not by creating a chimera that can only earn a degree, but not the value of a degree.